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		<title>By: Jeremey</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughtful response. I need to read &quot;Manifesto&quot; that books sounds interesting. I feel for anybody who had to deal with mainstream media folk regarding skateboarding. My heart goes out to you. And as far as positive influences in skateboarding, I&#039;m working on the Tim Brauch doc, basically just helping out with some finishing touches... Tim was one of the most positive figures to step on a board.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s funny because you mentioned Steve Caballero, and I&#039;ve been cutting up Caballero all day. He repeatedly refers to how good a person Tim was, and holds him as a model for other skateboarders... pretty much echoing exactly what you said. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to talk more, you can hit me up at jeremey (at) jadedmultimedia.com. What company did you work for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughtful response. I need to read &quot;Manifesto&quot; that books sounds interesting. I feel for anybody who had to deal with mainstream media folk regarding skateboarding. My heart goes out to you. And as far as positive influences in skateboarding, I&#39;m working on the Tim Brauch doc, basically just helping out with some finishing touches&#8230; Tim was one of the most positive figures to step on a board.</p>
<p>It&#39;s funny because you mentioned Steve Caballero, and I&#39;ve been cutting up Caballero all day. He repeatedly refers to how good a person Tim was, and holds him as a model for other skateboarders&#8230; pretty much echoing exactly what you said. </p>
<p>If you want to talk more, you can hit me up at jeremey (at) jadedmultimedia.com. What company did you work for?</p>
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		<title>By: FunNotFame</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunNotFame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I&#039;d never heard of this book. I can agree with his overall point that &quot;skateboarder&quot; and &quot;dirtbag&quot; are not necssarily synonymous, and that skateboarding would benefit to some degree if this myth were demolished. That&#039;s true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the author&#039;s very first claim - that nobody&#039;s stood up and addressed what&#039;s wrong with skateboarding - is patently false: as far as I know, the first book dedicated to addressing what&#039;s wrong with skateboarding was a book we published in 2003 titled &quot;Manifesto: Read About Skateboarding.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, Davidson laments that nobody in skateboarding has the gall to speak of the audacity of being a good man; that, too, is also false. Think of Steve Caballero as just one of many obvious examples of skateboarders who express higher ideas than the day-to-day grind (no pun intended). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, while Davidson may have a valid premise from which he&#039;s launched his book, I think he&#039;s also overlooked a few things and given short thrift to other skaters with similar thoughts who came before him. Either way, thanks for covering this. I had no idea this book even existed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You said, &quot;To put it another way, the strength of skate culture is that it has existed mostly outside of the mainstream.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&#039;s it, right there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You said, &quot;A couple of years ago when I was working for a hip international media company, I found myself producing content about skateboarding. My philosophy for that content was firmly rooted in telling what I believed to be the true story of skateboarding. A story that was dirty, DIY, and underground, but also community centered and creative. I tried my best to pick subjects that illustrated those themes. Because of that, I sometimes found myself arguing with higher ups who were more interested in broadcasting a cartoonish image of skateboarding that involved lots of televised competitions and SoCal caricatures. At best I found that image hilarious... and I never slanted that way when I was in control of the final product.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I completely relate to that, and had the same experience as a screenwriter with a skate-based television series produced by NBC in 2001. I had to fight hard just to get basic vernacular right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I&#39;d never heard of this book. I can agree with his overall point that &quot;skateboarder&quot; and &quot;dirtbag&quot; are not necssarily synonymous, and that skateboarding would benefit to some degree if this myth were demolished. That&#39;s true.</p>
<p>However, the author&#39;s very first claim &#8211; that nobody&#39;s stood up and addressed what&#39;s wrong with skateboarding &#8211; is patently false: as far as I know, the first book dedicated to addressing what&#39;s wrong with skateboarding was a book we published in 2003 titled &quot;Manifesto: Read About Skateboarding.&quot;</p>
<p>Also, Davidson laments that nobody in skateboarding has the gall to speak of the audacity of being a good man; that, too, is also false. Think of Steve Caballero as just one of many obvious examples of skateboarders who express higher ideas than the day-to-day grind (no pun intended). </p>
<p>So, while Davidson may have a valid premise from which he&#39;s launched his book, I think he&#39;s also overlooked a few things and given short thrift to other skaters with similar thoughts who came before him. Either way, thanks for covering this. I had no idea this book even existed.</p>
<p>You said, &quot;To put it another way, the strength of skate culture is that it has existed mostly outside of the mainstream.&quot; </p>
<p>That&#39;s it, right there.</p>
<p>You said, &quot;A couple of years ago when I was working for a hip international media company, I found myself producing content about skateboarding. My philosophy for that content was firmly rooted in telling what I believed to be the true story of skateboarding. A story that was dirty, DIY, and underground, but also community centered and creative. I tried my best to pick subjects that illustrated those themes. Because of that, I sometimes found myself arguing with higher ups who were more interested in broadcasting a cartoonish image of skateboarding that involved lots of televised competitions and SoCal caricatures. At best I found that image hilarious&#8230; and I never slanted that way when I was in control of the final product.&quot;</p>
<p>I completely relate to that, and had the same experience as a screenwriter with a skate-based television series produced by NBC in 2001. I had to fight hard just to get basic vernacular right.</p>
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